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January 09, 2004

Bush-Hitler Comparison

A lot of Bush supporters have expressed outrage over moveon.org's "Bush in 30 Seconds" project, specifically with two entries that compared Bush with Hitler. Matt Drudge made a big to-do abpout it on his site, with many other pro-Bush sites following suit, all aghast that anyone could compare the two men. I've seen comparisons floating over the internet for over two years now, so it shouldn't have come as a shock. I am glad Drudge made a stink because thousands of outraged Republicans scoured the internet in search of the offensive videos, which means that thousands of Republicans saw two commercials showing the fascist parallels between the the two men. They might all still be in denial, but the important thing is that the seed was planted in their mind. If Drudge wasn't such a Republican suck up, I would almost think that this was his intention all along.

People want to say that Bush is not another Hitler. I think they need to add the word "yet". Actually, Hitler was far more astute than Bush. Hitler built up the German economy. Under Bush, we have lost 3,000,000 jobs in three years. Hitler's popularity was real, as opposed to the fabricated polls that keep telling us Bush is doing a great job. I have to say, I don't see many flags or signs that say "I support President Bush and our troops" in many neighborhoods, and I live in the guy's home state. With all the resignations from political appointees in his adminsitration, I am guessing that not even many Republicans support the guy.

Still, the parallels between Germany society post Reichstag and the United States post 9-11 are eerily similar and grow stronger with each passing day. Bush hasn't achived full dictator status yet, but all it take is one event and a bunch of paniced sheep. Another strike on American soil is of no benefit to a foreign terrorist. It will, however, benefit Bush. If someone really wanted to damage the American elite, would it not have made more sense (and saved time and money) to have carpet bombed the Cayman Islands? Just think of all the money and hidden assets that would have disapearred. And anthrax. If the anthrax attacks were from a foreign terror group, wouldn't they have struck the headquarters at Halliburton and Bechtel? Wouldn't that be a simple and fairly inexpensive way to shut down a war machine? Why target Leahy? Who benefits?

It's the Reichstag factor of 9/11 that has generated comparisons between Bush and Hitler.

I came across a letter to the editor on Truth Out called "The Bush Hitler Thing." The letter is written by a woman whose family members were victims of Hitler's regime. The author spoke to many people growing up, always asking, "How could this have happened? How could you remain silent." She repeats the answers given to her in her letter to Truth Out.

On the comparison of Hitler and Bush she says:

So far, I've seen nothing to eliminate the possibility that Bush is on the same course as Hitler. And I've seen far too many analogies to dismiss the possibility. The propaganda. The lies. The rhetoric. The nationalism. The flag waving. The pretext of 'preventive war'. The flaunting of international law and international standards of justice. The disappearances of 'undesirable' aliens. The threats against protesters. The invasion of a non-threatening sovereign nation. The occupation of a hostile country. The promises of prosperity and security. The spying on ordinary citizens. The incitement to spy on one's neighbors - and report them to the government. The arrogant triumphant pride in military conquest. The honoring of soldiers. The tributes to 'fallen warriors. The diversion of money to the military. The demonization of government appointed 'enemies'. The establishment of 'Homeland Security'. The dehumanization of 'foreigners'. The total lack of interest in the victims of government policy. The incarceration of the poor and mentally ill. The growing prosperity from military ventures. The illusion of 'goodness' and primacy. The new einsatzgrupen forces. Assassination teams. Closed extralegal internment camps. The militarization of domestic police. Media blackout of non-approved issues. Blacklisting of protesters - including the no-fly lists and photographing dissenters at rallies.

There are too many Americans who say, "It could never happen here. This is America." Well, it's happening now. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. This is why I believe that the negative publicity of the infamous Bush-Hitler commercials is a good thing. At least we have a chance to stop this madman before it gets worse. But if we close our eyes to the past and the present, then history will certainly repeat itself. What are you going to do then?

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I am a conservative/liberal (if there is such an animal) thinking person with NO lever thrown for the next major election. I have read your posts. As you know I am a faithful reader/learner. There is much I could add to your thoughts/input; as strength to your latest post. There is not space here the do justice as a compliment. But...
Some time ago, there was a woman who stated that ALL the easements and abandoned railways in this country would be used as walkways for the "encamped". I thought "she" was nuts. She was high up in the political circles around here and I listened. As the world becomes more encumbered with views and ideals most differing from mine; I am reminded of that statement. We all have a number. The individual that spoke those referenced words was a devote conservative "right-wing" crazy(I thought).
I Thank-YOU for your opinion and words. I am enlightened and put foreword. Your references make a difference for the informed and UN-informed. At times I am not sure which category I fall into. :-)

Well said.

I admire your courage, Kelly.

If I haven't said it before I'll say it now - I’m glad I stumbled across your site. An artist that comes out swinging was just what I needed on my list of favorites.

you really need to research Hitler,

the distinction between these two men are vast.

Hitler erased an entire group of people.

Bush has never done this. It is sad to think

people believe that patriotism is equal to

nationalism.

keith you totally missed the point, the point was not genocide, it was the way that hitler came to power and comparative of how bush became dictator (not with full control YET)
the similarites of the events leading to the control hitler had over a nation blinded with staged events,(no 9/11 was not staged) lets try the economy and iraq (both were staged, and how he would be the great redeemer. This is similar to how Hitler "became" a evil ruthless individual THEN the genocide comes to play. educate yourself my friend. ( The major differnce, Hitler was elected and not appointed by a group of right wing nuts)

"Partisan Politics demonstrates fascism in its rawest form" - Rick

BUSH=HITLER..........I HATE IT WHEN I'M RIGHT

I think that the main problem in this country right now, besides Bush, is blind patriotism. Don't follow the idiot over the cliff. Don't be the lemming, and don't drag the rest of America down with you. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said, "Any man who is afraid of speaking the truth, because it may offend someone, can not be an honest man." And I believe that the comparisons are real and that everyone in America needs to keep a very close eye on every one our appointed officials. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely! As long as Americans have discussions like this one, and there are at least of few of us that won't be "The Lemming", Hitler-Bush will never win. Viva La Resistance!!!

Keith,

Patriotism IS equal to Nationalism in Bush's world. get a grip. Under unilateralism in the dictionary is a picture of Bush and we all know unilateralism is a byproduct of exhuberant nationalism.

There are plenty of parallels between Bush and Hitler and nothing that's stretching it (similar hair or something mundane). The powers enacted after the burning of the Reichstag (9/11) and the preemptive invasion of Poland (iraq) under a load of lies are but two parallels.

nicely done... karmakats agree!

Kelly - as one too often accused of making the claim that you are making now (at least I was at Harvard), I'll start off: you're entitled to your opinion, I respect it, and will defend to the death your right to express it.

That said, pragmatism suggests foregoing the easy 'Bush = Hitler' claim.

First: a 30-second provocative ad is not likely to alter the course of the country (but it did help MoveOn build up its core of activists).

Second: this type of ad annoys a large number of normal, reasonable Americans, who may or may not be conservative, but certainly don't see themselves as Fascist.

Waking them up without turning them off (into a paralyzed apathy) or pushing them away (to watching FoxNews) requires efforts far more enduring than the 'Bush=Hitler' claim.

Like flag-burning--I'll defend anyone who wishes to make the claim, but strongly encourage finding another more effective route to change American policy.

When hate is brought against hate, whoever has the larger bank account can mobilize the greater quantity of hatred: in this battle, the Liberal lose. We must play by different rules if we are ever to regain influence.

One thing that might seem odd but it is common between the two ...
to Bush it was God who ordered him to invade iraq afghanistan with malice power and death
and hitler also claimed to be doing according to God's command
Obiviousley its not any jewish christine or muslim's God its god that he worship
god of ruthless power over the humbles...

There are several crucial points that all of these Bush-Hitler comparisons overlook. Here's a couple of mine:

-There is no ethnic, nor any other sort of cleansing going on among the citizenry. Bush is doing just the opposite and going to the opposite extreme by going against 80% of the population's wishes by admitting a controversial people group.

-Unless Bush refuses to step down from the Presidency after the next election, he's not a dictator.

And I have to say, the quote from the woman who's parents were killed by Nazis is so misleading. Her victimization doesn't automatically give her the ability to understand the workings of History. Citing her association with Nazi Germany is just a guise of authority. And while her list of "parallels" seems exhaustive and overwhelmingly conclusive, their vagueness only disguises the possibility, even probability, that each comparison is an oversimplification of the qualities of most modern wars.

Just watch this video. Its Quite interesting.
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

"Hitler erased an entire group of people.
Bush has never done this."

YET.

Bush isn't being compared to Hitler at his height of power. Bush is not yet recognized as "Dictator." At the moment, Bush is playing the retard in public to disarm the people. Meanwhile, he is paying huge sums of money for a media blackout while he rewrites the Constitution to deprive the American people of their Civil Liberties and solidify his power. He has already legally granted himself dictatorship in the event of ANYTHING he considers to be a national emergency. This is not Conspiracy Theory. Google "Directive 51."

Once that happens, I suspect that his true colors will be revealed. Anyone who tries to resist his New World Order will be detained indefinitely by his militarized police force and likely tortured (that is legal now).

I also DEEPLY resent people claiming that supporting Bush is "patriotic." I fail to see how ANYONE could continue to support a maniac who is destroying our country by shredding our Constitution, ruining our global reputation, conducting illegal wars on countries that did NOT attack us, and decimating our economy. What will it take to wake you people up?????????????????????

Time will tell. At this point, I am predicting that both a recession or depression will sweep the nation and another "terrorist attack" will occur in the next few months. When Americans are completely broke, desperate, and confused, Bush will declare Martial Law. I will be very surprised if there actually IS a 2008 election at this point.

Unless people wake up to the world around them, history may well read:

The United States of America
RIP
1776-2008

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